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he is talking about pulling could really endanger our young men and women in uniform who are in iraq, who are in afghanistan. president obama strongly condemns a church's plan to burn copies of the koran this weekend as another church jumps on the band wagon and says they're going to do the same thing. dan rather is here to weigh in on the controversy ahead. tom brady's car crash. breaking details coming in on the accident involving the patriots' quarterback. and say it ain't so. are alaskans turning their back on levi johnston? i'm chris jansing live from msnbc world headquarters in new york. the remnants of tropical storm hermine turned deadly. swamping texas neighborhood and washing away roads. in belten, homes are submerged and people were hauled to safety in inflatable rafts.
flood waters killed at least two people who became trapped in their cars after ten inches of rain fell in the dallas area. flood waters even closed six flags over texas. those are not supposed to look like water rides. and to top it all off, a series of tornadoes blew through the dallas area. amateur video captured this twister, it flipped an 18-wheeler and left the driver trapped. he was pulled out by a stranger. >> the driver of the 18-wheeler stuck his hand out the window and, you know, help, and me and three or four other people went over and pried the door open and helped him get out. >> let's go to the weather channel's julie martin who is live in dallas. julie? >> well, chris, one of the more unexpected effects of hermine and the twisters that tore through the dallas ft. worth area last evening about 6:15, you mention that tractor trailer. we're standing right in front of where that, in fact, happened.
you can see the damage this twister left behind. that gentleman inside the cab was on this street heading southbound. he was heading away from me. this twister picked up that truck, spun 180 degrees and slammed him and the truck into that building, which is, by the way, a paint manufacturer from what we understand. so, not only was he lucky to be alive in that respect, but hazardouses chemicals inside that building. this was a hazmat scene last night, as well. dramatic video coming in from viewers who were just watching these funnels drop out of the sky. at least four of them throughout the area. just when they thought they were getting a break from all the flooding you mentioned that hit this area so hard yesterday morning then came the twisters. some structural damage and keep in mind out of 1.3 million people or so here in the metroplex, no one seriously hurt, including that lucky truck
driver, chris. >> thank you so much. day four of a raging wildfire that turned 135 homes to rubble in boulder, colorado. more than any fire in state history. 500 firefighters are on the job this morning. officials say it could be ten more days before that blaze is fully under control. and while some evacuees have been allowed to go home, they've also been warned to be ready to make a run for it, again. fi officials in detroit, meantime, are on the defensive about a massive series of fires that leveled 85 structures there. the mayor was clearly frustrated at a news conference over repeated questions about budget cuts and whether the fire department's staffing shortages and response time to downed power lines made the destruction worse than it had to be. city officials argued that high winds that downed power lines and then spread burning embers had the brunt. but detroit free press headline told the story, some detroiters
left with nothing but their fury. president obama is now jumping into the fast-growing fray over that florida minister who is not backing down on his plan to burn the koran on september 11th. the president called on terry jones to "listen to those better ange angels." he declared the stunt, the event a stunt and warned it would have grave consequences for the united states and europe. >> this is a recruitment bonanza for al qaeda. you know, you could have serious violence in places like pakistan. or afghanistan. this could increase the recruitment of individuals who would be willing to blow themselves up in american cities or european cities. >> nbc kerry sanders has been following this story. he joins us now from gainesville, once again this morning. kerry, there has been so much pressure from so many sides, but absolutely no turn around from
the minister or his congregation at this point. >> none. and point out it's a very small congregation, at most, 50. out here in this field which borders a cow pasture and there you see the church in the background, but terry jones, the pastor, says he is not backing down unless he gets a message from his god telling him not to do this. he's gone a little bit further now in talking with "usa today" telling a reporter from "usa today" that if he were to get direct contact from the white house, from the pentagon or the state department, then he might reconsider. he says he's burning the koran to send a message to the extremists within the muslim religion. he says that he's offended by certain aspects of what is in the koran. so, i asked him directly, what was it about the teachings of islam that offend him so much? here's a little bit of that exchange. >> i have only read parts of the koran. >> tell me a part that you have
read that offends you that has you and your small congregation out here planning on burning that islamic holy book. >> we are burning the koran as a demonstration. >> quote something that you read that offended you, that has you concerned. >> well, of course, the koran does not recognize jesus christ as the son of god, the crucified savior. >> of course, the koran does mention jesus christ and following his philosophy here, i did ask him, well, what about the tora because in the jewish faith they do not recognize jesus as the son of god and as a savior. is he going to start burning the tora. he said, no, no, no, we're not going to do that. some of the logics seem slightly confused. i asked him whether this was a stunt and just confused what you're trying to present here. he was emphatic saying this was not a stunt.
will he burn the koran with his followers. will he do that on the anniversary of 9/11 right here in the field? well, he may follow through with that, but there's one other caveat here and that is that there is an ordinance in the city of gainesville about open fire. yes, you are allowed to have a camp fire but the city police determined that needs to be made with twigs and branches and not by books. because the city says the ink in the book is a toxic material and you can't burn a toxic material. so, if he attempts to ignite these korans, it may turn out that the fire department extinguishes it as fast as somebody strikes a match. chris? >> thank you, kerry sanders. i'm joined by dan rather. this story has certainly created some interesting bed fellows. all on the same side, sarah palin and barack obama. jesse jackson and franklin graham. but i think for a lot of the media, this really started when
general petraeus said that he thought this could pose a danger for u.s. troops and civilians living abroad and then peter king said, i think he said it yesterday, that he worries that all these people talking about this is really elevating it. do you think that's what's happening here? that he should just be left alone? >> i can't tell anybody how to cover anything and having made my own mistakes over the years. i think this story is being overcovered and one of the things the 24 news cycle brought us brought us a lot of good things. one thing it brought us, people can bring a lot of attention. outrageous positions. >> i have to tell you, though, dan, we didn't really do this, at least not this program until general petraeus spoke and then when he starts saying, listen, troops are in danger. that becomes a story. >> i quite agree. i absolutely agree that once, with myself. once general petraeus says, listen, i'm telling you this can
put my troops under my command. and game, set, match. you've got to cover it. my only point is that the recent point now has its own momentum going and president obama stated it pretty well that this gets widespread distribution around the world, coverage of this. all out of proportion to what it might otherwise deserve. >> whether they burn the koran or not and i don't want to minimize that act in any way, but has the damage already been done, dan? >> in many ways, i think it has. i think that is what general petraeus is trying to say. he was trying to limit the damage. i don't think he would have spoken out unless he thought some damage had already been done and he's worried about starting the wildfire effect of this which let's hope and pray doesn't happen. let's clearly see here what's happened. this is a very small church and the second church now in tennessee. these are small churches. they have a right to do this. and once they get worldwide
coverage of, listen, we're going to do this, then leaders such as specifically president obama and petraeus, then they have to react and once they do, i agree, that we have to say, listen, folks, wake up. your son and daughters can be placed in danger by this. this is very dangerous. but what are you going to do? >> and let me ask you about what mayor bloomberg has to say. in fact, let me play exactly what he said when he was asked about pastor jones and whether he has the right to burn the koran. >> right. >> the u.s. constitution says you have a right to do that. period. end of story. the government can't stop you from burning a book. i said i thought it was distasteful, disrespectful and outrage and i thought it jeopardizes this country and our troops but the constitution protects it. and you either believe in the
constitution and the bill of rights or you don't. >> you have far more people, the vast majority of people speaking out against this than you do saying that they should. in fact, as about as far as anybody would go, constitutionally, they obviously have the right to burn whatever book they want to burn, but what real damage do you think it will do, dan, in the muslim world? you traveled there so extensively, you covered it extensively. do the voices of those two small churches get heard far louder than all the descenders? >> yes. and in the nature of overseas i think that is clear yes. also it got out front which is to say the news a christian pastor in the u.s. plans to burn the koran is the first headline and the most impressive headline. coming behind it, some coverage of president obama and what he says and what mayor bloomberg says. the answer is, yes, most of the
damage has been done. now, how do we limit the damage and go forward from here? >> can we limit the damage? >> we're, we're limited in what we can do because it is a free country. they do have a constitutional right to do it. that doesn't mean it's the right thing to do. but one could only hope that once the president has said what he said, petraeus has said what he said and the coverage begins to swing, look, understand we are a country of 300 million plus people and you're talking about congregations of 50 and maybe 100. that's the best we can do. but we are who we are. we're a freedom-loving country and freedom is not easy, nobody said it was going to be easy. particularly is this difficult during a war-time situation. but this is who we are and i do believe strongly that over the long haul when we explain, when we take time to explain who we are, what our basic beliefs are. i'm not talking about the
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president obama now weighing in on a florida pastor's plan to burn the islamic holybook on 9/11. the president warned the controversial action could trigger a dangerous backlash and help al qaeda recruit more terrorists. so far, pastor terry jones is not backing down. he says it's an effort to confront islamic terrorism. right now the council on
american relations is holding a news conference. the muslim group is planning to distribute 200,000 korans. in colorado an excruciating wait for thousands of residents unsure if a raging wildfire destroyed their homes. they were evacuated as the fire tore across the region north of boulder. 135 homes have been destroyed. patriots' quarterback tom brady is apparently okay after a serious early morning car accident in boston. reports say the super star was shaken up, but not taken to the hospital. new video just released of those 33 chilean miners glad to be talking to their families, but behind the pictures in this video reports of a big rebellion after more than a month trapped underground. the miners were upset when they were denied wine and cigarettes and they were sent back a shipment of peaches.